"Hit Herione" vs. "Flop Actress"?

aishwaryaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa any day any time.

The thing that annoys me the most is that in bollywood talent dosent matter anymore. The only thing that matters is good lookin face + body and fair skin, if u have that u can strictly go and work in bollywood.
And u know what? that makes bollywood look freakin cheap.

* I admire Ash for her good films and hard work. U can see the passion for acting in her movies. In my eyes she will always be a big superstar. And shes not flop at all, especially not with the attention Ash gets everyday. Shes famous worldwide. Maybe more for her looks, but she still is a great actress.

* And Katrina on other hand is also a hard worker. She´s gotten better with her acting since years back. But I think Katrina is more like an eye candy as u said. Her movies dont get that famous, its more her item songs with belly dancing and skin showing dances that indian men want to watch.

who said aishwarya is flop?
taal, Hum dil de chuke sanam, jeans, jodhaa akbar, dhoom 2, guru, robot, sarkar Raaj...

the other one used salman to get films yeah so cheaters dont win

After two back to back hits (Zindagi Na MIlegi Dobaara and Mere Brother Ki Dulhan)..............now Katrina has 14 Super hits movie in her Kitty so she is still rueling as number one actress in Bollywood................

And after considering her forthcoming already blo ckbuster movies like Dhoom3, Ek Tha tiger, Heer Ranjha, Seeta Aur Geeta, Dostaana and YRF'S NEXT WITH SHAHRUKH .............

I think Katrina is going to occupy the number one actress seat for another 10 years.........................

And why not,,,,,,,,,,she desereves to be queen of Bollywood as she is tall like a royal princess, beautiful like a fairy, smart like barbie doll, intelligent like a great winner.........and sexy like anything...............

So compelete package with an intellectual brain....................

Love u kat and Salman both......................u marry in due course and have fabulous babies...........

prefer katrina over aish, who cannot act to save her life

aish is a wonderful actress. that was how she hit super-stardom initially through her performances in taal and hum dil. she actually does strong roles better side chick flicks like aur pyaar hoga or dil ka rishta. but i think some where along the line Aishwarya the star became bigger and didnt fully give a chance for aishwarya de actress to truly develope and reach her max potential. and her face was already famous before hand so that posed a problem. so she got confused and stuck between the lines of actress and commericial star. i admit she is still not as good as rani or her predecessors madhuri, tabu, sridevi.

katrina better actress than aish. plz it took her years to even become decent in rajneeti. deepik? r u kiddin? sometimes i feel i can do her roles better than her. priyanka has potential but she shows it once in a blue moon. kareena is constant and versatile but her emotin doesnt always move me. i think aish is slight above pri and bebo. i put in the same category as vidya.

but i kno this actress is never going to get her due becuz of haters. her beauty and stardom. the most she will remain is a famous star

"Neither of them.Both for me have looks, but not talent.
they both are the worst actresses in btown. both suck."

SO TRUE @ 2 anons

IMHO ash + kat WERE/ARE/WILL REMAIN the 2 worst EVER ACTRESSES IN B-WOOD of ALL TIME for me :P

I may be a "jealous hater" but these women don't know -0% acting :)

Hit or flop, is on a dollar basis, not cinema wise. These words only seem to exist and be in use in the bollywood and hollywood industries. We don't have that silly ranking in Europe! :p

As for actresses, I think it takes years for someone who REALLY wants to be an actress (not a star) to make it and prove themselves. The first Hindi films of Sridevi were cinema-wise very boring. Poor storyline, she was all gimmicks, flesh show, ting-ting and poise. Same with Madhuri, same with Hema Malini, same with Rani (watch KKHH again!). The only actresses I feel who gave the heroine a different turn from the start were Rekha, Kajol, Vidya Balan and also Priyanka (Yes! she is the epitome of the modern western like girl, as much as people call her slutty, they are just hypocrites! :p)
It took Nagina to make Sridevi, it took Khalnayak to make Madhuri (I don't believe HAKH is a cinema wise worthy film), it took Black to make Rani, same as it took Seeta aur Geeta to make Hema Malini back then. Kajol was Kajol from day 1 in Baazigar/Minsaara Kanavu, Rekha was her own style in Do Anjaane, Vidya still have the same intensity films after films that she showed in Parineeta/ Bhool bhulaiya, Priyanka kept her own sultry acting line all along, from Aitraaz to Anjaana Anjaani with her roles in Don and Kaminey being strong performances.
Biggest disappointment of the decade has to be Aishwaraya: Her tamil roles were examplary, but she hasn't shown anything impressive in 10 years. Even Taal, HDDCS and Devdas are not hers. There was a spark in Provoked, Guru and recently Raavanan, but she couldn't carry it throughout. Probably because she never took real acting classes and lacks techniques.

I had never liked Katrina's non-existent acting skills (Watching her in Partner and De Dana Dan was a pain), but she was awesome in Raajneti, because the role was of quality and she knew it was a chance to prove her worth. She needs to pick up films carefully and try to raise her status. That is to say, unless she is happy playing the winning box office combo with Akshay forever, which might kill her career in the end! :) As much as I don't like Kareena K's huge popularity (very underserved and unfair in a way), she does a good job at being "the typical female heroine" in films like Omkara and Golmaal 2/3. Any film industry needs those, but still, she is inexistant in 3 idiots. But she has never challenged herself in her roles and has proved nothing (even back in Ashoka when she could have done a huge impact!). As for Deepika, well, after 2 years in the cinema world, having never taken acting classes, she is still gimmicks and poises. We will see in 5 years time.

All this just proves that in Bollywood, you can have a long life in the spotlight as long as your films are popular, but only the real actresses have their names remaining after years, because of their acting was seen in some films! But no worries, even in Kollywood and Tollywood, such exist. it's the use and throw culture of the 21st century... ^_^

well im not ash's biggest fan, but i don't agree that she is a "talented flop" actress - just going through a rough patch as all actors do; they have highs and lows. she had a run of superhits with taal, hum dil de chuke sanam, devdas etc.

As for katrina - im still a bit unsure about her but i think she is developing and proving her worth gradually (prime example: Raajneeti - in which she gave a brilliant performance) ...most of the actresses you have names start out not so great and go on to do bigger and better

And even the likes of the amazing sridevi and madhuri who are phenomenal actresses and cannot be beaten had a string of flops in their time.

Also, I dont think its fair that you have given one example per actress to justify your comments on their acting abilities and their hits/flops throughout the whole of their careers

Manya is the only true superstar with both looks and REAL talent. legend. no one.. NO ONE can come close to the talent she had in Bombay or Khamoshi.. she is a volcono of emotions. all natural and real emotions.. she is probably the only actress in Indian history of cinema with complete beauty and complete talent. too bad, she never worked at it much. and too bad for her.. she started to badmouth the biggies like Shubash and Madhuri and Sri, etc.. to be blacklisted fast in the industy. proof that beauty+talent alone never takes someone to #1.

Aishwarya is a good diplomatic actress but her magnificent beauty overshines everything (or aleast the lore of her beauty). No matter how good she acts, it's unfortunate (or fortunate) for her that people will only notice her looks. she works hard and has good ethics, and is smart of her public image. she gets the best of banners easily. went staright to the top.

Katrina happens to be part of guy-films which gets to be hits, that's all. give her a big role and then what? she seems content to play candy-parts, and that's that. she seems like a nice person though. she has the best smile so far in Bollywood (and that sells too). at times, plain jane with amazingly beautiful smile.

plz
depika katrina are still better actress than asih
AISH is definitely only eye candy..she looks good in phtos...even her vdo interview is ver sacry..eyes always bulging out like' dare you say anything negetive about me or I wll swallow you up'

u r rt it ended with madhuri who knew acting and was intelligent and good looking

rani or vidya balan could have been both preetyface and good actress but alas they dont like so much lie light as hungry Aish

um okay i would just like to take this opportunity to prove hrithikrules wrong!! did ash not try to be just a pretty face with action replay and irobot n try to be a commercial heroine..but unfortunately she flopped miserable..n ina guzarish its not her work thats being credited its solely hrithiks...so is ash is trying to be what kat n deepika r why r u belittling kat n deepika for it>???????? i dont understand!!!

deepika and kat r the it girls right now...people wana see them...their tired of ash.....maybe for people deepiak n kats acting seems more real than ashs overacting? i personally think that...the fact that deepika n kat dont make so many faces n over act seems to click more with audiences rather than ash's over acting...if people liek kat n deepika more y r u getting ur knickers in a twist??

hey hrithikrules i was just wondering y u havent made a anti kat post recently but yeh u completely surpassed ur self with this one.... u would make a great hitler u know....

wtf!!! how does this even makes sence....ash for u is the better "actress"...for kat n deepikas fans as well as the rest of the world judging by the figures it is deepika n kat who r better actresses...N IF UR TRYNA COMPARE MADHURI TO ASH THEN THINK AGAIN MY FRIEND COZ MADHURI IS WAYYY ABOVE ASH...

n its not about hit heroine or flop actress,...because with action replay ash tried to become a "hit heroine" but she didnt even succeed in that...n she doesnt succeed...so maybe ash s a flop in any case! where as when kat done "hit heroine" in sing is king she passed...n when she done "actress" in raajneti she broke records...so shes a hit no matter what genre u put her in!

personally hrithikrules i think ur a lil bit intimidated by the deepikas n katrinas....u just cant accept hat ash is just getting old n flop...she reigned in the industry for years...n was a hit then..but now she's been replaced by what th epeople want today! so just accept it dude!

kat is way more cuterrrrrr than aishwarya